Saturday, 8 February 2025

Emotionally Intellgent Child (Part 2)

We were in company of the child I referred to in the first part, having our respective afternoon beverages. And I hummed "હરી પર અમથું અમથું હેત', one of my favourite Amar Bhatt compositions, I feel has devotional overtones.

Suddenly he asked his grandmother, "why is nanaji sad?" The question set me thinking. The child understands emotions. He is trained for the same, I am sure. May be these days all educational systems must be helping infants and pre-primary children to be emotionally intelligent, and I am not aware. That was not what I was wondering about. He had linked pathos to devotion or misread the emotions, perhaps. Or is it that these two emotions are closely linked? I tried to find an answer.

What he had made me learn is, both pathos and devotion involve strong emotions. Pathos is a quality that evokes feelings of pity, sorrow, or tenderness, often associated with suffering or vulnerability. Devotion implies a strong feeling of love, loyalty, or dedication towards a person, cause, or object. While pathos can be a component of devotion, especially when related to religious figures or spiritual beliefs, it is not a defining characteristic, but vulnerability is a connecting link. Devotion can also encompass feelings of joy, gratitude, and reverence. The emotions can easily be misread, at least by a 4-year-old, I concluded.

My learning process was in motion. It was my humming of a song that he interpreted. He had attempted, unknowingly, to link the tunes to emotions and came to a conclusion. I should therefore learn about how emotions are linked to music and how to relate music to emotions while listening.

The question that required answer was, “I understand Hindustani classical music system is elaborately designed and intricately woven in to feelings and time through various ragas. Which are the ragas linked to pathos and which ones with devotion? Are there ragas which reflect both emotions?”

I asked my newly explored Chinese Chatbot.

Bot Thought for 63 seconds (here is the process as described by it. I am copying it here for those exponents of Hindustani Classical music to help me evaluate if the Bot was analyzing correctly.)

“Okay, let's try to tackle this question about Hindustani classical music ragas linked to pathos and devotion. The user wants to know which ragas are associated with these emotions and if any ragas reflect both.

First, I need to recall what I know about ragas and their emotional associations. Ragas in Hindustani classical music are indeed connected to specific moods or times of day. Each raga has a particular set of notes, phrases, and often a prescribed time when it's performed, which contributes to the emotion it evokes.

Starting with pathos, which is a feeling of sadness or sorrow. I remember that ragas like Darbari Kanada and Marwa are often associated with deep emotions. Maybe also Bhairavi? Wait, Bhairavi is usually a morning raga but is also used in thumris and can express devotion. Hmm, maybe I should check that.

For devotion, ragas like Bhairavi, Yaman, and Bhimpalasi come to mind. Yaman is a evening raga that's often serene and could be devotional. Then there's Malkauns, which I think is more meditative but might have devotional aspects too. Also, Raga Kafi is sometimes used in devotional songs.

Now, the user also asked if there are ragas that combine both pathos and devotion. That's a bit tricky. Maybe some ragas that have a poignant quality but are also used in devotional contexts. For example, Bhairavi might be a candidate since it's used in both sad and devotional pieces. Another possibility is Raga Desh, which can be melancholic but also used in patriotic or devotional songs. Or maybe Raga Todi, which is known for its pathos but could be used in devotional settings.

Wait, let me think again. Todi is a morning raga with a serious, introspective mood, often associated with sadness. But could that introspection also be a form of devotion? Maybe. Similarly, Raga Puriya Dhanashri is another one that's sung in the late afternoon and has a poignant feel but might also be used in devotion.

I need to make sure about the specifics. For example, Darbari Kanada is definitely associated with deep pathos and is a late-night raga. Then there's Raga Shree, which is evening and has a solemn, devotional tone. Also, Miyan ki Malhar is a monsoon raga that can evoke both the joy of rain and the sorrow of separation, which might bridge emotions.

I should structure the answer by listing ragas for pathos, then for devotion, and then the overlapping ones. Also, mention how certain ragas can evoke multiple emotions based on how they're rendered. Maybe include examples of famous compositions or times when these ragas are performed. Also, clarify that the emotional impact isn't just from the scale but from the phrasing, tempo, and performance style.

Wait, but I need to confirm some details. For instance, Raga Yaman is often considered a romantic or serene raga, but in devotional contexts? Maybe through bhajans. Bhairavi is definitely used in both. Also, Raga Kedar is another evening raga that's devotional.

I should also be careful not to mix up Carnatic and Hindustani ragas. The user specified Hindustani, so focus on those. Avoid mentioning Carnatic ragas unless necessary.

So, in summary:

Pathos: Darbari Kanada, Marwa, Todi, Malkauns (though Malkauns is more meditative), maybe Chandrakauns.

Devotion: Bhairavi, Yaman, Bhimpalasi, Kafi, Ahir Bhairav.

Both: Bhairavi (sorrowful yet devotional), Shree (solemn and devotional), Puriya Dhanashri (poignant devotion), maybe Miyan ki Malhar (monsoon raga with both joy and sorrow).

I should also note that the context and lyrics play a role. A raga's emotion can be influenced by the composition's lyrics, especially in devotional songs like bhajans or khayals. So even a raga typically associated with pathos can be used devotionally if the lyrics are devotional, and vice versa.

Also, mention the concept of rasas in Indian aesthetics, where each raga aims to evoke a particular rasa. Pathos would align with Karuna rasa, devotion with Bhakti rasa. Some ragas might blend these.

Make sure to provide a few examples for each category and explain briefly why they are associated with those emotions. Maybe include a note on how time of performance affects the mood, like late-night ragas being more introspective or sorrowful.

Need to verify the details again. For example, Malkauns is a pentatonic raga known for its gravity and can be both meditative and somber. Darbari Kanada is a late-night raga with heavy use of gamakas, creating a mournful effect. Marwa uses the augmented fourth interval, creating tension and poignancy. Todi is a morning raga but with a serious, somber mood.

For devotion, Bhairavi is often used in bhajans, as is Yaman. Raga Kedar is another one used in devotional contexts. Ahir Bhairav is a morning raga that's serene and used in devotional singing.

So, putting it all together, the answer should list the ragas under each category, explain a bit about their structure and time, and mention any overlaps where a raga might evoke both pathos and devotion. Also, clarify that the emotional impact can be subjective and influenced by performance context.”


Bot finally Responded:

In Hindustani classical music, ragas are intricately linked to emotions (rasas) and times of day, creating a profound connection between sound, sentiment, and context. Below is a structured overview of ragas associated with pathosdevotion, and those that may evoke both:

Ragas Linked to Pathos (Karuna Rasa)

  1. Darbari Kanada
    • Time: Late night
    • Emotion: Profound sorrow, gravitas. Uses slow, gliding meends (glissandi) and heavy ornamentation to evoke a mournful mood.
  2. Marwa
    • Time: Sunset
    • Emotion: Restlessness, longing. Features the augmented fourth interval (tivra Madhyam), creating tension and introspection.
  3. Todi
    • Time: Morning
    • Emotion: Melancholy, solemnity. A serious raga with microtonal nuances, often associated with pleading or introspection.
  4. Malkauns
    • Time: Midnight
    • Emotion: Meditative sorrow. A pentatonic raga with a somber, hypnotic quality.
  5. Chandrakauns
    • Time: Night
    • Emotion: Ethereal sadness. Uses the flatted fifth (komal Nishad) for a haunting effect.

Ragas Linked to Devotion (Bhakti Rasa)

  1. Bhairavi
    • Time: Morning (often concluding dawn performances)
    • Emotion: Devotion, surrender. Widely used in bhajans and thumris, with a serene yet poignant character.
  2. Yaman (Kalyan)
    • Time: Evening
    • Emotion: Divine love, tranquility. A foundational raga for devotional compositions, blending warmth and reverence.
  3. Ahir Bhairav
    • Time: Early morning
    • Emotion: Spiritual awakening. Combines folk and classical elements, often heard in temple hymns.
  4. Kedar
    • Time: Night
    • Emotion: Joyful devotion. Associated with monsoon festivals and Krishna bhakti.
  5. Bhimpalasi
    • Time: Afternoon
    • Emotion: Lyrical devotion. Popular in khayal and thumri genres for its expressive phrasing.

Ragas Reflecting Both Pathos and Devotion

  1. Shree
    • Time: Late afternoon
    • Emotion: Solemnity and reverence. Blends introspection with devotional grandeur, often used in temple rituals.
  2. Puriya Dhanashri
    • Time: Twilight
    • Emotion: Poignant longing for the divine. Combines a plaintive mood with spiritual yearning.
  3. Miyan ki Malhar
    • Time: Monsoon
    • Emotion: Joyous rain and separation (viraha). Celebrates nature’s bounty while expressing the pain of separation, often linked to devotional themes.
  4. Bhairavi (in certain renditions)
    • Context: While typically devotional, its use in thumris and semi-classical forms can evoke sorrowful longing (viraha bhakti).

Nuances to Consider

  • Lyrical Context: A raga’s emotional impact can shift with lyrics. For example, Todi might express sorrow in an instrumental alap but devotion in a kirtan.
  • Performance Style: Tempo, phrasing, and ornamentation (e.g., meendgamak) influence whether a raga leans toward pathos or devotion.
  • Time of Day: Ragas performed at twilight (e.g., Marwa, Puriya) often blend transitional emotions, mirroring the interplay of light/darkness or separation/union.

These classifications are fluid, as the same raga can evoke diverse emotions depending on the artist’s interpretation and the listener’s perspective. The beauty of Hindustani music lies in this emotional versatility, allowing ragas to transcend rigid categories.

I am learning from the younger one.

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